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(1) Kim il Sung, Hitler, Stalin, and dictators in general will reward you or punish you for your political belief, regardless of your character or behavior.
Christians in effect claim that Jesus will reward you or punish you for your religious belief, regardless of your character or behavior.
(2) Another parallel is the threat of torture.
Dictators usually threaten political dissidents with torture in prison, Jesus supposedly threatens unbelievers with eternal torture.
(See Mark 16:16)
Question: Anybody else see parallels between Christian doctrine and a regular Police State or dictatorship?
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They are not just similar; they are the same thing. The only danger facing America today is is its own inclination to theocracy.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
NO CUZ GOD HAS COMPASSION…THOSE MANIACS DIDNT SO DONT BLASPHEME YOUR CREATOR!!!!!!!!
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November 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Anybody else see parallels between Christian
doctrine and a regular police state or dictatorship?
–They also have a history to back it up.
Lindylou: Islam originated from Christianity, essentially, your own people
are ‘persecuting’ you with a different aspect of the same beliefs.
Glenn S: Communism doesn’t automatically mean ‘anti-theist’ government. I can govern Communism, and keep Christianity under certain limitations for the preservation of civilization. Your generalization is far worse then the one presented by the question. Fascism is a lot worse.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_I
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlamagne
etc.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Nope.
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43+ years following a Jewish Carpenter & studying His Book!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Dude, Hitler hated Jews, Jews are Gods chosen people. Get a life. Anyways, most police are crooked. If everyone followed Gods new testament for us, do you know how peaceful the world would be?
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November 22nd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Yes.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN WHY DO YOU CARE
YOU STUPID TEDDY BEAR.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Whereas i disagree with your interpretation of Christianity, i do think there are close similarities between mediaeval societies and fascism closely connected to their interpretation of Christianity. In genuinely fascist regimes, the Church frequently held a specially privileged position.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
the assumptions you make are as bold as they are errant.
that is like saying Hitler ate and breathed air as you do so you must be like Hitler.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
No.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
You are wrong, Jesus never taught about religion or even Christianity, that is all made by man. We are judged by our behavior, whether it be good or bad. With dictators there are no rewards, only more oppression.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 9:10 pm
No but I see parallels between Obama and police state, Christ offers freedom, Obama slavery. Who do you choose?
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November 22nd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Jesus’ crucifixion was an inside job, bro.
God is watching you….
Big Brother?
The church acts to increase it’s influence, those who a part of it are infallible….
the courts consistently rule in favor of the officer or give him a slap on the wrist, rarely is an officer given a criminal charge.
There are many similarities because both act in favor of themselves and have an agenda.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 10:20 pm
They are not just similar; they are the same thing. The only danger facing America today is is its own inclination to theocracy.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 11:03 pm
If you could read, you would know that christians aren’t the ones whom will penalize you.
Moving away from an dangerous area away , eg., crime and deviances is normal for those who can afford to.
Giving advice regarding God’s Word is love of all men. Learning to research what you have read may help to prevent the silly statements made above.
Research before you write scrap.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Christianity arose BECAUSE of a police state. The Romans entertainment was to go to their coliseum and watch the lions EAT the Christians ALIVE. When the Christians stood still and prayed while the lions ate them alive, the Romans knew the Christian’s God was all powerful and began converting to this powerful religion.
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‘In Caesar’s Grip’ Peter Kershaw
The Bible
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:07 am
1. Jesus lived a sinless life and was for people, esp the poor, the sick, and the outcasts.
Hitler especially was out to destroy people who genetically werent a standard He believed deserved living. According to his own ideas, not Gods.
2. Jesus doesnt threaten about anything. What he says is a fact. If you are not clean of your sins through him and the salvation he offers you wont be able to go to heaven, which only leads to one place.
from the beginning of the Old Testament you learn that God will not be in the presence of sin. so why do you think you are going to heaven if you are a sinner who doesnt believe in Christ and what he did for us.
The choice is yours. Torture in prison is not a choice the prisoner asks for.
Jesus often talks about being free from sin, hell, and the enemy once you accept salvation. its was like a legalistic deal we got, that once you accepted it with faith, the enemy had no hold on us. that meant no sin or hell too.
your comparison is too general.
let me show you how:
1. My two year toddler threatens me everyday with a fit if i dont give her what she wants or nice when i give in. So she is rewarding me or punishing me according to what i will do as her mom (purely a dictatorship)
2. and if i really make her made she will torture me with a huge temper tantrum. throwing toys, hitting, yelling and screaming.
see how general they are?
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November 23rd, 2009 at 12:21 am
"(1) Kim il Sung, Hitler, Stalin, and dictators in general will reward you or punish you for your political belief, regardless of your character or behavior."
Just by making such an absurd statement reveals you to be a blinded with hate and a foolish ideologue.
All of these political leaders were all secular humanist, non-Christian governments. Fact….they were all atheistic governments. The kind of governments that atheists advocate. You forgot to include Pol Pot, the USSR, China, Mao, Red Guard and every Communist government. These same secular-humanist that atheists seem to prefer are responsible for murdering 100′s of million innocent people just in the last 100 years.
Fact is Christianity was banded under most of these dictatorial regimes.
The anti-Christian, secular-humanist/atheistic religion is the most blood thirsty murdering group in the history of the world.
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Ironman
Karl Marx and Fredrick Engels were both atheists and stated in their Communist Manifesto that religion was the "opiate of mankind." So please stop trying to fill us with your re-writing history lies that Communism isn’t anti-Christian. I didn’t make a generalization, but a statement of fact about communism and its cruel, sorted and blood thirsty past and presents.
Fascism is worse than Communism?……I don’t think that it made any difference to the 100′s of million that died at the hands of either Communist’s or Fascist’s…they are all just as dead. Fact is Stalin, Mao, and the other great communist leaders made Hitler look like second rate butcher when it came to murdering innocent people.
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November 23rd, 2009 at 1:07 am
No I don’t.
According to Open Doors’ 2009 World Watch List, North Korea is ranked No. 1 for the seventh year in a row. Christians are persecuted constantly under the communist government, which denies human rights to its citizens.
The Wahhabi kingdom of Saudi Arabia is No. 2 and Iran No. 3. Both countries are ruled by Shariah law.
Afghanistan, Somalia and the Maldives take the fourth, fifth and sixth positions, respectively. Afghanistan moved up three spots on the list this year as a result of increased pressure from the Taliban movement during 2008. Yemen is No. 7, Laos No. 8, Eritrea No. 9 and Uzbekistan No. 10.
Somalia and Eritrea are new countries to the top 10 list. In Somalia, the number of incidents against Christians increased dramatically in 2008, explaining its rise to No. 5 from No. 12 in 2007. For Eritrea, there was no major change in the lack of religious freedom for Christians. Around 3,000 Christians are being held in Eritrean prisons.
China and Bhutan dropped out of the top 10 with China now No. 12 and Bhutan No. 11. Last year China was No. 10 and Bhutan No. 5.
Islam is the majority religion in seven of the top 10 countries: Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Somalia, Maldives, Yemen and Uzbekistan. Two countries have communist governments: North Korea and Laos. Eritrea is the only dictatorial country in the 10 highest countries on the list.
The World Watch List is compiled based on the results of a thorough questionnaire consisting of 50 questions covering various aspects of religious freedom. A point value is assigned depending on how each question is answered. The total number of points per country determines its position on the World Watch List of countries that are the worst persecutors of Christians.
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November 23rd, 2009 at 1:34 am
No I don’t.
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