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	<title>Comments on: Are there any jobs similar to PSYOPS that don&#8217;t involve joining the military?</title>
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	<description>Because there is a WAR on for your MIND</description>
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		<title>By: dostoyevsky77</title>
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		<dc:creator>dostoyevsky77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  All of the COCOMs (geographic Combatant Commands) have what are called Information Operations (IO) departments.  These are responsible for what were formerly known as PSYOPs.  Your qualifications need to be excellent in order to override the requirements for a TS/SCI:

LINK:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._security_clearance_terms

Unless you want to deploy, you will need a TS/SCI in this field.  Deployment might only require a SECRET, since the tactical environment means you will be less engaged in national-level assets.  

PSYOPs no longer exists in DOD vernacular.  If you want to get into &quot;IO&quot;, my recommendation would be to find someone in the field or post your resume to contractors who service SOCOM or CENTCOM (the coordinator and the executor, respectively, for the GWOT).  These include Northrup Grumman, MANTECH, L3, SAIC, and others.  

Typically, a TS/SCI clearance costs the government 60k+.  While the government will absorb most of this, a contracting company will try to weasel you out of most of it in your contract.  If you negotiate an initial contract based on no clearance, ensure that a stipulation exists IN WRITING that once you attain TS/SCI that you will get into a different pay band.  With your background and with the (approved) SCI clearance, expect to make around 100k.  Multiply that by 2 if you want to deploy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

Nudge is good as a wink if you&#039;re blind as a bat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  All of the COCOMs (geographic Combatant Commands) have what are called Information Operations (IO) departments.  These are responsible for what were formerly known as PSYOPs.  Your qualifications need to be excellent in order to override the requirements for a TS/SCI:</p>
<p>LINK:  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._security_clearance_terms" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._security_clearance_terms</a></p>
<p>Unless you want to deploy, you will need a TS/SCI in this field.  Deployment might only require a SECRET, since the tactical environment means you will be less engaged in national-level assets.  </p>
<p>PSYOPs no longer exists in DOD vernacular.  If you want to get into &quot;IO&quot;, my recommendation would be to find someone in the field or post your resume to contractors who service SOCOM or CENTCOM (the coordinator and the executor, respectively, for the GWOT).  These include Northrup Grumman, MANTECH, L3, SAIC, and others.  </p>
<p>Typically, a TS/SCI clearance costs the government 60k+.  While the government will absorb most of this, a contracting company will try to weasel you out of most of it in your contract.  If you negotiate an initial contract based on no clearance, ensure that a stipulation exists IN WRITING that once you attain TS/SCI that you will get into a different pay band.  With your background and with the (approved) SCI clearance, expect to make around 100k.  Multiply that by 2 if you want to deploy.<br /><b>References : </b><br />Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.</p>
<p>Nudge is good as a wink if you&#8217;re blind as a bat.</p>
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		<title>By: D S</title>
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		<dc:creator>D S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no civilian occupation that is directly equivalent to MOS 37F. However, the following civilian occupations make use of the skills developed through MOS 37F training and experience. For more information about these occupations from the U.S. Department of Labor&#039;s Occupational Outlook Handbook, click on the civilian equivalent below. 

Advertising and Promotions Manager 
Market Research Analysts 
Marketing Managers 
Public Relations Managers&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://answers.yahoo.com/question/answer?qid=20090408182742AAxKFg7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no civilian occupation that is directly equivalent to MOS 37F. However, the following civilian occupations make use of the skills developed through MOS 37F training and experience. For more information about these occupations from the U.S. Department of Labor&#8217;s Occupational Outlook Handbook, click on the civilian equivalent below. </p>
<p>Advertising and Promotions Manager<br />
Market Research Analysts<br />
Marketing Managers<br />
Public Relations Managers<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/answer?qid=20090408182742AAxKFg7" rel="nofollow">http://answers.yahoo.com/question/answer?qid=20090408182742AAxKFg7</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reyjaun C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reyjaun C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psychological Operations is not a psychology job. It has absolutely nothing to do with that. It is a combat related job involving gathering information.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psychological Operations is not a psychology job. It has absolutely nothing to do with that. It is a combat related job involving gathering information.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>advertising

my guess is that commercial advertising
is years ahead of publicly admitted research into the &quot;Psychcology of the &quot;normal&quot; individual&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>advertising</p>
<p>my guess is that commercial advertising<br />
is years ahead of publicly admitted research into the &quot;Psychcology of the &quot;normal&quot; individual&quot;<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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